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[STARTED] Post URL fails for JSTOR article at http://www.jstor.org/stable/2398114

It also fails for me using the non-advanced browser button.

Just in case the URL is not linked from the title: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2398114

I've had problems with JSTOR before. Last time it seemed to boil down two different URLs that pointed to the same article. One of which the browser button could correctly parse, the others not so much. I tried to find the previous bug report about this (from a long time ago) but couldn't since there seems to be no way to search the bug report forum directly.

In any case the URL above is JSTOR's "stable" url so I think it'd be a good idea for citeulike to be able to read them.

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-08 05:07:26.

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JSTOR have changed their site - on the case.

Posted by fergus on 2012-11-08 08:01:38.

I'm not sure if this is due to those changes but this problem http://www.citeulike.org/groupforum/2782 is now fixed.

Posted by tnhh on 2012-11-09 15:02:33.

To me, at least, this still looks like the same kind of thing...

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-12 00:51:53.

It's partially fixed - pasting that URL into the "Post URL" form works but actually opening you link brings me to

     http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2398114?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101350087421

which is still broken.

Posted by fergus on 2012-11-08 08:19:16.

Interesting. When I click on the link you posted my browser reports that the page I'm on is the link I posted, but the citeulike browser button doesn't work. When I click on the link I posted my browser reports the same url for the page I end up on and the citeulike browser button works. Weird.

Perhaps there is some issue about url's being displayed in the address bar for my browser that is making things a little more complicated (I use opera if that helps). This would go some way to explain the discrepancy I found last time I raised an issue about JSTOR.

I can confirm that pasting the url I gave into the Post URL form works, while doing the same for the URL you gave does not.

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-08 20:42:47.

The particular problem is that that article's DOI hasn't been put into CrossRef (which is very naughty of JSTOR)

Posted by fergus on 2012-11-08 20:45:26.

Ah... so in one case (the link you provided) the doi is in the url, but citeulike can't look the details up from CrossRef? And... for the link I provided you have some kind of hack that works around this that won't work for the doi based url?

I had noted that the doi for the article seems to be completely absent from JSTOR's page. Otherwise I'd have just plugged that into the Post URL form.

Thanks (as always) for the very quick reply about this!

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-08 20:53:52.

In this case we get the DOI from the URL: 10.2307/2398114 (it's hidden within the HTML too)

Posted by fergus on 2012-11-08 20:56:27.

I have the problem that the article is added, but the abstract is wrong.

Posted by StephanMatthiesen on 2012-11-25 15:05:59.

This URL doesn't work in the Post URL form or the browser button: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2398454

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-12 00:55:17.

This URL also fails in the Post URL form http://www.jstor.org/stable/2157540

Clearly this problem hasn't been fixed...

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-11-22 21:45:52.

Also have this problem. It seems that JSTOR actually uses different URLs for the same article, one works and one doesn't (why?):

Hope this helps

Posted by StephanMatthiesen on 2012-12-14 16:13:41.

The issue persists: http://www.citeulike.org/post_error.adp?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ejstor%2eorg%2fstable%2f2006422&msg=Couldn%27t+extract+a+title+from+the+page+you+were+looking+up%2e+I+don%27t+have+enough+information+to+add+this+paper+to+the+site%2e

Note that I used the "stable" url. Your claim that the Post URL page works for such URLs is not correct.

I understand that there is an issue with extracting the doi from the page. Does this mean that this will not be fixed, that's it's too hard to fix, that you're waiting on JSTOR to contact you about it?

What's happening with this problem? I often have need to import references from JSTOR to citeulike. I'm finding the lack of information about this bug frustrating.

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-12-18 00:58:59.

@fergus: Is is possible to get an update about this issue?

When will it be possible to use the bookmarklet on JSTOR pages?

Even "never" is a valid answer... it'd just be nice to know.

Posted by BenWhale on 2012-12-31 03:52:21.

I'm still waiting to hear from them. :-(

Posted by fergus on 2012-12-31 11:30:41.

Looking at the examples in the thread of JSTOR "stable" URLS it seems that it works for newer article that have a DOI, but not for older ones:

Perhaps this helps you to get to the bottom of it. Of course if you're just scraping the DOI and then look it up in CrossRef, it wouldn't work for articles without DOI.

Posted by StephanMatthiesen on 2013-01-03 20:10:27.

It's messy: some older articles have a "10.2307/" prefix (so that 10.2307/530500 exists in crossref). But not all...

Posted by fergus on 2013-01-03 20:42:28.

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