Group CiteULike-discussion

new forum message Why the different options between RIS and BibTeX exports?

2010-01-05T16:22:18+00:00

It was most likely a user-requested option.

Fair dues.

Thanks for the tip, I've asked the balancing question on the Sente discussion, we'll see what they say

new forum message Why the different options between RIS and BibTeX exports?

2010-01-05T10:33:22+00:00

It was most likely a user-requested option.

I've discovered that Sente ... ignores the notes fields

If Sente prefers a different field name, you can "map" the field to another name using the hints in the advanced options on the bibtex export page

new forum thread Why the different options between RIS and BibTeX exports?

2010-01-05T10:28:56+00:00

I'm having a play with a new desktop reference manager (Sente Mac only) so I've been exporting CUL library for import to Sente. I've discovered that Sente (not CUL problem) ignores the notes fields in BibTeX format so I tried the RIS/EndNote format for CUL export.

Then I noticed that the RIS export does not offer the option to have a calculated key type (AuthorYearTitle) for articles that do not have a personal key. Why options on one and not the other?

new forum message [OPEN DISCUSSION] any recommendations for e-readers?

2010-01-05T10:16:07+00:00

Kurzweil is a dominant player in reading support [dyslexia etc]. This free reader is interesting because their systems have always been high price before. I for one would relish a text to speech reader for PDFs - OK it would probably make for some funny and incomprehensible moments on some of the words in my papers, but it would allow reading of literature while walking/cooking/driving etc.

new forum message Profile Disabled?

2010-01-05T08:49:27+00:00

The profile is promoting a commercial service ("Based in Keene, New Hampshire, blah-di-blah is a long-standing, family-run company that provides training and support..."), so the account has been disabled.

new forum thread Profile Disabled?

2010-01-04T22:25:16+00:00

Hello.. I've been reading through these subjects and it seems like this has happened to someone else as well.

How do I get the profile to show up again and I just want to make sure the articles dont get deleted like other people's did becayse you thought they were spam.

No spam here! I like gathering all the articles I can that are related to our industry so that we can direct our students here to browse interesting topics.

Thanks!

new forum message [OPEN DISCUSSION] any recommendations for e-readers?

2010-01-04T22:05:49+00:00

Seems like there will be an interesting new player in this field pretty soon.

new forum message [CLOSED] the "no-tag" is not removable

2010-01-04T07:34:21+00:00

Thank you!

new forum message [COMPLETED] Bug in sorting by publication date: 19th century papers end up after 21st century!

2010-01-02T10:25:33+00:00

OK, that's fixed. There was a stupid bug that didn't consider recognise anything before 1900 as a "year".

new forum thread [COMPLETED] Bug in sorting by publication date: 19th century papers end up after 21st century!

2010-01-02T09:02:31+00:00

This is at least the result I got, see the bottom of :

http://www.citeulike.org/group/11419/tag/sand-ripples/order/year,asc,?page=2

new forum message [CLOSED] Importing form Google Scholar -- via its BibTex export

2009-12-31T18:01:25+00:00

I've added a basic post from Google Scholar function (using advanced bookmarklet only)

Let me know your thoughts on how it works.

new forum message [CLOSED] Importing form Google Scholar -- via its BibTex export

2009-12-31T14:29:54+00:00

Unfortunately the bibtex record doesn't have very good metadata - in particular no URLs or DOIs. No abstracts either.

I've had a cunning plan for ages, but it keeps getting pushed to the bottom of the pile.

In the meantime loading the actual article and posting that is the best way. (I using "middle click" to open a new browser tab.) In many ways this is preferable anyway, apart from the reason given above, as it gives you a chance to eyeball the actual article first, to verify it is actually the one you want.

I am also aware that this is unlikely to be easy due to google wanting to keep their information for themselves.

I don't think this is it. I think that they just want to force users to get data directly from them (so they can show ads, etc) rather than a 3rd party freeloading off them. They've recently ramped up their anti-scripting defences.

new forum thread [CLOSED] Importing form Google Scholar -- via its BibTex export

2009-12-31T14:07:06+00:00

Hello,

I am sure that a frequent request concerns a feature to import references from google scholar. I am also aware that this is unlikely to be easy due to google wanting to keep their information for themselves. However, scholar can be configured to show links to import citations into BibTex. My browser is configured not to download the file but to show it on screen. Since CiteULike already has a BibTex import feature, shouldn't it be possible to post these citations to CiteULike via Scholar's BibTex export? Here's what I mean:

look up reference in scholar
click on "import into BibTex" --> BibTex record is shown on screen, not downloaded as file (Browser must be configured accordingly)
click on "Post to CiteULike" bookmarklet --> BibTex record is posted to user's CiteULike library (and can be reviewed).

I guess this would really be useful also for others.

Thanks for considering this and a happy new year's eve!

new forum message [UNDER REVIEW] multiple PDFs per entry --> Supplementary Material

2009-12-30T13:55:25+00:00

multiple files of different types to a single entry.

That would be excellent. PNGs, JPGs and supplementary docs would extend the functionality of the CiteULike library to something close to a real library of books, notes and graphics. +1

new forum message European characters are not exported properly in RIS format

2009-12-30T11:13:07+00:00

That's fixed now. Thanks

new forum message [UNDER REVIEW] multiple PDFs per entry --> Supplementary Material

2009-12-30T03:17:36+00:00

I also would like to be able to add multiple pdfs per entry. Many journal articles have supplementary information in a variety of file types (pdfs, .doc, tif, jpg, etc.) so I would like to be able to attach multiple files of different types to a single entry. This feature is currently available in WizFolio. As more and more journal articles have supplementary material, this feature is essential.

Thank you.

new forum message European characters are not exported properly in RIS format

2009-12-29T21:59:05+00:00

Hi, not sure if this is the same issue (I don't quite understand the question) - but I often have the same that author, title or abstarct are not imported correctly when they contain special characters. here is an example: http://www.pnas.org/content/106/52/22085.abstract?etoc When I import this with the bookmarklet, I get for the authors: Parteli EJR, DurÃ¡n O, Tsoar H, SchwÃ¤mmle V, Herrmann HJ Thanks! Stephan

new forum message [COMPLETED] Posting summary

2009-12-29T15:40:30+00:00

Ok. I still recommend sticking to a single term (post) rather than two (post, bookmark).

new forum message European characters are not exported properly in RIS format

2009-12-29T12:10:47+00:00

Looks fine for me. How are viewing the RIS record? Does your text viewer have an option to change the encoding to UTF-8 (the "é" is the correct UTF-8 of 0xc3a9) ? I suspect it's set to some chinese encoding by default.

new forum thread European characters are not exported properly in RIS format

2009-12-29T12:06:27+00:00

European characters are exported properly in bibtex format, but European characters are not exported properly in RIS format. For example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=12438313 "Benjamin Barré" becomes "Benjamin Barr矇". Thank you.

new forum message [STARTED] proceedings (whole) appear as inproceedings in bibtex

2009-12-29T10:49:39+00:00

Hmm. Rather ambiguous in the BibTeX spec:

     conference: The same as INPROCEEDINGS, included for Scribe compatibility.
     inproceedings: An article in a conference proceedings.
     proceedings: The proceedings of a conference.

I will investigate if it's "safe" to change.

new forum thread [STARTED] proceedings (whole) appear as inproceedings in bibtex

2009-12-29T01:59:45+00:00

It seems that the conference proceedings (article) and conference proceeding (whole) have no difference as far as the Bibtex conversion is concerned. Hope it should be easy to fix, unless there was a reason behind this.

Thanks!

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-28T19:32:21+00:00

Ah! All clarified. Thanks.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-28T19:24:05+00:00

Removed completely, for user and group libraries [i.e. plain "/", "/tag/some-tag", "/author/some-author" still have the limit]

He meant those literal URLs: /tag/some-tag (limit) vs. /user/fred/tag/some-tag (not limited)

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-28T19:20:58+00:00

Removed completely, for user and group libraries [i.e. plain "/", "/tag/some-tag", "/author/some-author" still have the limit]

I am a little confused here. I thought there was no limit for user and group libraries to begin with.

Limit doesn't apply when downloading the WHOLE lib /user/xxxx or /group/nnnn Posted by thegoose on 2009-12-23 09:10:35.

I think the 1000-article limit on the bibtex export of "/tag/some-tag", "/author/some-author" urls initiated this discussion.

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-28T18:53:08+00:00

I think I knew this... before all the christmas cake I ate!

On a tangential note, comments and notes turn up in individual activity on the profile pages, so I have no idea why they can't also turn up on group activity pages.

PS: Anything else, dfkotz? It would be very helpful if you could take critical look at the whole FAQ when you get a chance and post everything that comes to mind here. :-)

new forum message [CLOSED] Skewed library view for members in private groups.

2009-12-28T18:44:55+00:00

That is strange. It has corrected itself now. I tried it on both Chrome Portable and Firefox with Greasemonkey turned off and it looked the same. Its okay in both now.

new forum message [CLOSED] Skewed library view for members in private groups.

2009-12-28T18:20:42+00:00

I can't replicate this - what browser are you using? If FireFox and are using LA's script - try turning it off.

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-28T17:46:46+00:00

I am not sure what a comment is.

Comments are on blog articles.

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-28T17:03:05+00:00

What's a "full member", and how does it differ from a regular (non-full?) member? From an administrative member? Does this comment also apply to the situation where you are adding a note to an article within the group?

Thanks, I have addressed these in my new edits to the FAQ.

Does this mean that the above-mentioned checkbox is pointless? or does "automatically" mean "by default"? If so, why isn't the checkbox checked by default?

I guess it is pointless. Maybe CUL should check it by default.

What's the difference between a note and a comment?

I am not sure what a comment is. Notes don't appear in the activity feed. Basically, everything that appears under "Recent group activity" on the Info page of the group is picked up by the combined activity RSS feed.

And, what about forum posts?

Yes, these are included in the RSS feed (and appear under "Recent group activity").

new forum thread [CLOSED] Skewed library view for members in private groups.

2009-12-28T15:55:59+00:00

For restricted/full members of a private group, the group library view is somewhat skewed. The right hand side tag box ends up inside the article list box. Take a look.

- Z (alias Nineveh)

PS: I am using this secondary account to answer dfkotz's tricky group questions. :)

new forum message [CLOSED] the "no-tag" is not removable

2009-12-28T13:44:50+00:00

I've purged all them for you. I can't imagine what happened.

Gotta open this again cos I have "no-tag"

Generally better to open a new thread so it's less likely to be missed.

new forum message [CLOSED] the "no-tag" is not removable

2009-12-28T12:35:59+00:00

Gotta open this again cos I have "no-tag" all the way through my library They exist where there are other public tags, and I have a sneaking suspicion that they have crept in after I have tagged papers. The "no-tag" does not get exported so I am not able to compare exports and see when that might have happened / be happening.

Frustratingly I can remove from an individual paper when I update tags manually, but cannot remove them using the group delete.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Posting summary

2009-12-28T10:19:01+00:00

Well, we call our button a "bookmarklet", I suppose.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-28T07:32:25+00:00

Removed completely, for user and group libraries [i.e. plain "/", "/tag/some-tag", "/author/some-author" still have the limit].

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-28T02:43:37+00:00

Thanks! Very helpful. A few tiny comments.

If you check the "This is a private note which only I can read." box while posting/copying the article, only full members of the group (private or public) can see the private note when they are logged into the CiteULike.

What's a "full member", and how does it differ from a regular (non-full?) member? From an administrative member?
Does this comment also apply to the situation where you are adding a note to an article within the group?

All notes posted to private groups are automatically only viewable by full group members.

Does this mean that the above-mentioned checkbox is pointless? or does "automatically" mean "by default"? If so, why isn't the checkbox checked by default?

You can monitor all new group activity except notes and comments through a combined activity RSS Feed. You can access this RSS feed at:

What's the difference between a note and a comment? And, what about forum posts?

new forum message [COMPLETED] Posting summary

2009-12-28T02:29:35+00:00

Thanks for fixing the bug. Now a related question.

This article has been bookmarked once...

What is a "bookmark"? Do you mean, it has been "posted to one library"? You may wish to avoid introducing a new term unless there is really a new concept here.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-28T00:16:20+00:00

Thanks! Is there some newer limit or have limits been removed completely?

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-27T22:47:02+00:00

Fixed now.

new forum message [OPEN DISCUSSION] any recommendations for e-readers?

2009-12-26T09:35:45+00:00

superb!

new forum message [OPEN DISCUSSION] any recommendations for e-readers?

2009-12-26T04:45:52+00:00

I have a feeling you wouldn't have liked them anyway.

new forum message New Sorting Icon!

2009-12-26T04:02:15+00:00

It looks great now!

new forum thread Show real name instead of user name in page titles

2009-12-25T19:03:24+00:00

Hi, just a small cosmetic suggestion, but I would prefer to see the real name and not the user name in the title of all the pages (library, tags, etc etc..). It is already so on the recommendation page (I mean when other users look at the page, for myself the "my library" is fine). I think it's just nicer when you look at other people's pages to see real names rather than cryptic usernames. If somebody wants to hide his identity for some reason, they can just leave the name field in their profile blank.

new forum message [OPEN DISCUSSION] any recommendations for e-readers?

2009-12-25T12:29:33+00:00

Got away with it! (Perhaps because the Zhu Zhu hamster wasn't on the radar)

new forum message New Sorting Icon!

2009-12-25T09:01:02+00:00

Ooh, nice. Please can we have pubdate in there too?

And +1 for the suggestion for dropdowns, or at least for working on the formatting a bit more. I'll remove my sort thing from the greasemonkey script now

new forum thread New Sorting Icon!

2009-12-25T00:31:02+00:00

First, thank you so much for the nice Christmas present. :-)

And now for the feedback. The way it is now, the radio buttons make the sort menu panel extra-wide. So if you don't have a 22" screen, the panel looks off-centre and not very oriented. How about making all three selections (field, order, empties) drop down menus - like in LondonAnalytics script? It will conserve a yard of horizontal space.

Again, thanks a bunch!

new forum message Change/ correct citation for article in both private and group library

2009-12-24T23:32:21+00:00

Thanks for the clarification about reposting, this is useful.

If you could find a better way to link from an article to its coutnerpart in the groups, that would be great. Like the "my copy" link, but going the other way. I don't quite understand about cluttering the interface. OK, that is a valid point in the library list, but how about adding it in the pages for the individual article? there is already the posting history etc., so you could easily link not only to the group but to the article in the group.

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-24T21:16:33+00:00

Nice

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-24T21:05:17+00:00

Made some changes on the FAQ page about Groups. Take a look!

new forum message Change/ correct citation for article in both private and group library

2009-12-24T16:34:56+00:00

One frequent issue is that papers are published as advance editions first without all details, and when they then come out in print a few weeks later you want to get details like issue and page numbers.

If you "repost" the article from the original source to any library, the underlying metadata will be refreshed and updated for all copies of the article (even other peoples'), but won't overwrite any mods. you've made by hand.

Another option is to re-[Copy] the modified one from your library. I think that does the right thing.

Also it seems difficult to actually find the article in the groups.

Yes, not ideal. I added a [My Copy] link for the personal library case but lots of people complained about it cluttering up the interface.

The workaround is to copy the article ID from the end of the URL, then paste that into the group's search box (Menu: Group XXX -> Search).

new forum message Change/ correct citation for article in both private and group library

2009-12-24T16:02:56+00:00

Hi, I second (third) this suggestion. I find that I quite often have to modify details later. One frequent issue is that papers are published as advance editions first without all details, and when they then come out in print a few weeks later you want to get details like issue and page numbers.

Also it seems difficult to actually find the article in the groups. The links only point to the group library, but not the individual paper. So one actually has to search for the paper in each group, quite tedious. Or have I overlooked this option somewhere? At least, if this was easier, then doing modifications by hand in several copies would be less of an issue.

new forum message FAQ about Groups

2009-12-24T15:09:31+00:00

Thanks, I will work on this in a bit. :-)

new forum message [DECLINED] Profile Picture - Support transparencies?

2009-12-24T15:08:53+00:00

Bummer!

new forum message [DECLINED] Profile Picture - Support transparencies?

2009-12-24T15:08:00+00:00

a grey background to match the page?

I did that but then the Profile portlet in the Portal page has a white background.

new forum message [DECLINED] Profile Picture - Support transparencies?

2009-12-24T14:49:09+00:00

Our images are stored as JPG, which doesn't allow for transparency.

Why not just give the pic. a grey background to match the page?

new forum message Support for:tags in groups?

2009-12-24T12:26:09+00:00

That's done

new forum message [CLOSED] Where to put comments and suggestions about the FAQ?

2009-12-24T12:17:54+00:00

Anywhere will do.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Posting summary

2009-12-24T12:16:02+00:00

Bug is fixed. The dud metadata isn't shown any more. (Since this article is imported, there isn't any "trusted" metadata to show.)

There's a tooltip on [Posts] indicating what it does and the page itself should be fairly self-explanatory.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Connections automatic for group members

2009-12-24T11:48:43+00:00

I didn't like the idea of "automatic" connections, or even automatic requests

I understand, though I respectfully disagree.

Frankly, though, if for:tags are not supported within groups, then connections are not useful within group members anyway.

Thanks for the addition of Pending/Connect/Disconnect buttons.

new forum thread FAQ about Groups

2009-12-24T11:32:58+00:00

The FAQ page about Groups is rather limited.

Here are questions I wish it would answer:

''Groups can be either public or private.'' Ok, but what does it mean for a group to be public, or private?
Copy semantics: yes, you can share articles with other researchers, but only by-copy and not by-reference. This is a major difference.
Forums are documented, but how does a Group differ in terms of the other Social Features (Connections, [Share], messages, and Blogs?)
Notes: are private notes private to the group, or to the user? in a private group, are all notes private?
Posting Privacy Settings: what does it mean for a posting to be ""publicly visible" vs "private to your library", in the context of a group? a private group? And how do these semantics differ from My Library?
Group configuration: if there are any FAQs about creating a new group. The text on the creation page is pretty good.
Link to this page from the group-creation and group-search page, and from the My Groups page.

In short, the semantics of groups need to be clearly defined.

new forum thread [CLOSED] Where to put comments and suggestions about the FAQ?

2009-12-24T11:32:39+00:00

Where would you like us to post comments and suggestions about the FAQ? Typo fixes might go in Bugs, but requests for extensions go in Features?

new forum thread [COMPLETED] Posting summary

2009-12-24T11:31:37+00:00

I had never tried the [Posts] link, and decided to see what it did. On a random article in my group, I clicked [Posts].

It led me to a page that said:

Untitled

, ???? Untitled.

'''View the full article here:'''

No URLs defined

even though my article does have a title, authors, all the other relevant metadata, and links.

I cannot find any mention of [Post] in the FAQ, so I'm not even clear on what it's supposed to do.

Thus, three things (please):

fix the above bug
document [Post]
link from the post page to the documentation

new forum message Support for:tags in groups?

2009-12-24T11:27:40+00:00

There's no reason not to have [Share] within group libraries. I'll have a look.

new forum message [COMPLETED] FAQ corrections and updates

2009-12-24T11:26:06+00:00

Thanks.

new forum message Support for:tags in groups?

2009-12-24T11:22:22+00:00

I had never noticed the [Share] button. I don't see it on the article page for articles in my private group -- which is where I spend all my time -- though I do see it on one of the articles in My Library. Is this feature not supported in group libraries? if not, I vote to support both for:tags and Share links in group libraries.

new forum thread [COMPLETED] FAQ corrections and updates

2009-12-24T11:16:08+00:00

On the FAQ about for:tags there is no mention of the limitation that for:tags may not be used within group libraries, or private group libraries. Actually, I'm not clear on what the limitation is, which is why I went to read the FAQ ;-).

On the same page, under Sharing articles there is a typo: Of should be If, and all all should be all.

new forum message [COMPLETED] RSS return everyone's library, instead of a specified group

2009-12-23T22:01:35+00:00

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas!

new forum thread [DECLINED] Profile Picture - Support transparencies?

2009-12-23T16:40:15+00:00

The profile picture doesn't support transparencies currently. It converts transparent backgrounds to white - which is somewhat clunky. This is of course a very low-priority request, but please consider supporting transparent background png images in the future. Thanks. :-)

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-23T14:30:25+00:00

It'll be the same order at the listings page, which is - yes - the most recent ones normally (unless one has specified sort options)

We're probably gonna relax that restrictions with certain caveats (not yet finalized). In particular we don't want (badly behaved) search engines killing our servers by downloading huge libraries.

new forum message [COMPLETED] RSS return everyone's library, instead of a specified group

2009-12-23T14:26:31+00:00

I think that's working now. Thanks for the report - that bug's been there since "forever" but no-one's noticed before.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-23T13:42:20+00:00

So how does one know which articles will make the 1000 that will be downloaded - are these 1000 the most recent ones imported into the library?

new forum message [COMPLETED] RSS return everyone's library, instead of a specified group

2009-12-23T11:26:52+00:00

I'm looking into it.

new forum thread [COMPLETED] RSS return everyone's library, instead of a specified group

2009-12-23T11:24:14+00:00

Search by year

I can get correct results in search page:

http://www.citeulike.org/search/group?q=year%3A2009&search=Search+library&group_id=5739

However, once I click "RSS" link to http://www.citeulike.org/rss/search/group?q=year%3a2009&group_id=5739

the RSS shows "Everyone" library, rather than the group ID I sepecified.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-23T09:10:35+00:00

Limit doesn't apply when downloading the WHOLE lib /user/xxxx or /group/nnnn

new forum message Bulk changes

2009-12-22T21:52:33+00:00

download selected PDFs from this forum post

new forum message Bulk changes

2009-12-22T21:35:25+00:00

To my list above I'll add the idea requested in a recent forum post

bulk change to priorities

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T21:33:36+00:00

That seems like a pretty serious restriction, for people serious about using CUL. I have about 11,000 references in my personal collection, currently in flat bibtex files.

new forum message Set priority on multiple articles in library

2009-12-22T19:48:49+00:00

No, I'm afraid not.

We're looking to add lots of "bulk editing" features in the near future.

new forum thread Set priority on multiple articles in library

2009-12-22T19:29:26+00:00

I have imported several articles I have already read, but want to have in my library (and I didn't see the "already read" priority option while uploading them). Is there a way to set a priority on multiple articles from the library window?

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T19:17:25+00:00

The filesize is around 2 MB for a 1000 article bibtex export. Could be for conserving bandwidth?

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T19:04:49+00:00

I'll consult with my colleague - I don't know why that restriction is there.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T18:23:52+00:00

Aha. I never knew that. Need to put that in the FAQ*.

*EDIT: Done.

new forum message [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T18:21:30+00:00

There's a limit of 1000 articles per export.

new forum thread [COMPLETED] Article doesn't get exported in the bibtex file

2009-12-22T18:12:03+00:00

I have this article tagged with "thelist" but somehow it never gets exported in the bibtex file for that tag.

It does get exported with some of the other tags such as this.

Am I missing something here?

new forum message [COMPLETED] Bibkey Search not working?

2009-12-22T18:01:38+00:00

It works perfectly now!! Thank you! :-)